"Notchback88" (notchback88)
02/15/2020 at 22:02 • Filed to: None | 7 | 10 |
“Don’t those catch fire?”
(Edit - deleted links because Kinja doesn’t like youtube?)
Believe it or not, this is/was my dream car for many years. I had an 88 Coupe that was my first car. Where my first car (circa 2001) was a base model 2.5l Iron Duke 4cyl with the 3-speed slushbox and options that included: tilt wheel, AC (non-operative), the GT I got in ‘13 had the 2.8l 60-degree V6, 5-speed Getrag manual, sunroof, (inoperative) subwoofer, and power lumbar seats. It was my daily for about 2 years, as well.
It is not anymore. It’s broken more often than not, and the list of things
to-be-fixed
seems to forever outnumber
fixed-for-now.
Some days, I just want to be rid of it. The wife supports that - she has no attraction to the 80s and 90s cars. But a considerable part of me still loves it. And regardless, I have to fix it - even if it’s to sell.
So, things that need tackling near term, that are somewhat addressed in this post:
Control Arm Bushings
Steering Rack Bushing
Shocks (That I forgot to take pictures of because they were fast.)
I’d already completed the driver’s side back over Christmas, as pictured here.
!!! UNKNOWN CONTENT TYPE !!!
So I finally got around to working on the passenger’s side. Armed with the experience of doing the drivers side already, and a vice, it went relatively smooth.
And also very messy.
So GM, in their infinite wisdom, designed 1988 Fiero control arms with bushings designed
not
be replaceable. They wanted you to replace the whole damn control arms. So the most commonly accepted method is burning out the rubber, leaving the sleaves in, and pressing in poly bushings.
But first, drink check:
Ale8 is from Kentucky, I had it once and it’s pretty hard to find in Kansas City.
So this weekend I set about burning out the bushings and cleaning out the sleeves before pressing in the poly.
And not going to use a slideshow because it won’t rotate pictures so....enjoy the scroll?
Yes, the garage is a mess.
Removing everything was fairly straightforward, but I knew that the next part was going to be a mess. Que the fire!
All bushings burnt and cleaned, I proceeded to press in the bushings and mount the lower control arm.
It required copious grunts, hammer slaps, and some profuse profanities, but it got in. The spring was a bigger pain in the ass, but it seated too.
Then I looked at the mess I made.
Yes, that’s a spare Fiero spoiler.
Anyway, with brake cleaner and towels, it eventually cleaned up and I got everything assembled. The house smelled of burnt rubber for two days.
Now on to the steering rack bushing, where I forgot to take a bunch of pictures. Regardless, this is a failure point of a lot of 88s (as they have a unique steering rack,) and it needed to be addressed. First, I removed the tub from the frunk, which had a cool feature I hadn’t noticed before: the approximate manufacture date of my Fiero!
8 December 1987, if I’m reading it correctly - which makes it a fairly late production car.
My lovely wife kindly reminded me that somebody at the Pontiac plant would not be writing in military date format. It’s probably August 12th, 1987.
With the tub removed, and the sleeve pulled back from the inner tie rod, I have this before me.
The passenger side is our concern - underneath the sleave is a busted plastic bushing.
Here, I learned that I just cannot get the tools to twist off the inner tie rod. I’m stuck at least until tomorrow after I soak the bolts holding the rack to the car. Removing those will give me a bit more flexibility, or I can get an inner tie rod tool. Below is the plastic bushing that needs to be replaced.
The replacement bushing is from a Fiero specialty retailer, Rodney Dickman. He sells some of the higher quality, custom-manufactured parts that OEM just can’t match anymore. My clutch master and slave cylinders are from his website as well.
So I’m stuck. Here’s a video of the unwanted motion in the bushing that necessitates its replacement. Kinja doesn’t like me posting YouTube videos, apparently.
I’ll have to take care of this tomorrow or next weekend - I just can’t get wrenches in there at the moment.
I also started the Fiero for the first time in a while. It’s indicative of my later issues: valve seals, maybe head gaskets, maybe rings. Or just sell it and it’s somebody else’s issue.
So that’s where I am with my 1988 Fiero GT. One thing fixed, more things to do. There’s also a draw, which I have yet to track down.
This car is trying when I’m working on it. It resists with old, 30+-year-old bolts and weak rubber. It’s frustrating and has poor support outside of the specific Fiero community.
But damn it’s fun to drive. I would love to keep it, fix it, and autocross it - maybe even the odd track day or two. Gotta convince my better half of that, but we’ll see.
I hope you all learned something or enjoyed my suffering.
And no, it still hasn’t caught fire.
TheRealBicycleBuck
> Notchback88
02/16/2020 at 00:20 | 2 |
The ‘88 was one of my dream cars. There was a kit back in the day for dropping in a small-block 350. The only tell-tale was the twin carbs and air filters sticking up through the rear deck. I really, really wanted to build one of those someday. Then life got in the way.
Notchback88
> TheRealBicycleBuck
02/16/2020 at 00:33 | 0 |
www.v8archie.com is the biggest source for SBC Fiero kits. There’s plenty of 88s for sale - or look up FieroGuru and his LS4 Fiero. Northstars have fallen out of favor due to the head bolts but - there’s a lot of options.
Could always buy mine!
TheRealBicycleBuck
> Notchback88
02/16/2020 at 00:38 | 1 |
I haven’t bought a project because of a lack of time and space. Maybe once the shed is built, the house renovations are complete and the side yard is paved....
Notchback88
> Notchback88
02/16/2020 at 08:48 | 0 |
KIIINJJAAA!
Notchback88
> Notchback88
02/16/2020 at 08:49 | 0 |
My first Fiero for reference:
sn4cktimes
> Notchback88
02/16/2020 at 13:19 | 1 |
This is some good Opportunity right here!
I did my wife’s Juke control arms last fall. It was actually cheaper to buy the entire damn control arm than the bushings for them. Ridiculous. But it was easy peasy. So good on that front I guess.
Excited to replace all the squishy bits on the Eagle this year. Ought to ride a lot better.
Doug, Greater Indianapolis, USA
> Notchback88
02/16/2020 at 17:14 | 1 |
Stay with it, my friend.
Slammer1
> Notchback88
02/16/2020 at 20:11 | 1 |
Been there/done that 86 1/2 GT three year restomod. All poly, added a rear sway bar, 17" alloys, 3.4L Camaro motor port matched and polished, high-lift roller rockers, performance clutch, lowering springs, new glass, custom hood and side scoops, Recaro style racing seats, black interior, new headliner,short shifter, all new door, trunk , hood and sunroof gaskets, LED lighting, Camaro headlight motors, etc. Drives like a go-kart.
Set up right these are fun cars that are much less expensive to own than a new 2-seater. Enjoy!
Clav
> TheRealBicycleBuck
02/16/2020 at 23:28 | 1 |
I had that same dream and then the same result lol
Chuck
> Notchback88
02/16/2020 at 23:36 | 1 |
I too have an 88 that I just love. It also is being a typical 80s GM. It will start and run well for 20 minutes and then fall on its face. It is parked for the winter. I plan to swap in a 3.9 from a 06 to 11 GM. Double the power and reliable. Good luck!